Fiesta (2009) Zetec brake pedal travel
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« on: April 21, 2012, 04:21:52 PM »

I know there are a few Fiesta owners on here so just throwing this one out there.

The wife's Fiesta has a LOT of travel before the brakes engage. The brakes work OK but the pedal can be pushed to the floor!

Been back to the dealer 5 times I think Ticked Off Rear pads adjusted, bled 2 or 3 times, replaced rear wheel cylinder, replaced master cylinder. Everytime it comes back, I swear it gets worse.

A bit of chatter on a UK forum had me thinking it might be a known issue but can't seem to find any resolution.

Have any fiesta owners had any issues with brakes or heard of any problems?
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2012, 04:44:35 PM »

How far do you pull the handbrake to start it working? Could be that the cable needs adjusting. It's usually under the car, like a turnbuckle thingy to effectively shorten or lengthen the cable.

If the handbrake is adjusted reasonably short the brakes can't open up too far and will take up earlier upon pedal effort being applied.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2012, 05:03:34 PM »

The hand brake comes about 1/3 to 1/2 way up before it feels like it is working.

With the hand brake on (and the engine running) the brake pedal still has a lot of travel but at least the pedal doesn't hit the floor.

So, I'm not sure that's the problem but I can see it might help. I'll adjust it when I get a chance.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2012, 05:23:45 PM »

How many kilometers has it done? Maybe the brakes are also getting pretty thin, or air in the lines? Needing a bleed with some new fluid.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 08:28:22 AM »

About 27k. If it wasn't under warranty I would have taken it elsewhere ages ago.
Just lost all confidence in this particular dealership.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 09:55:04 AM »

If I'm not mistaken, the handbrake is a cable and the brakes are a fluid, so the handbrake test is not really a good test in this instance...

Are the brakes spongy?  Have you had them do a brake fluid flush?  Has it been this way since day 1 or has it gotten worse over time?  Could be needing a flush, new fluid, new lines, etc...  Have you been able to compare it to one at the dealer when you're there for getting it checked out?

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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 04:15:04 PM »

Sounds like the sort of thing when you need new fluid to me.

Correct the handbrake is cable.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2012, 08:37:49 AM »

If I'm not mistaken, the handbrake is a cable and the brakes are a fluid, so the handbrake test is not really a good test in this instance...

Are the brakes spongy?  Have you had them do a brake fluid flush?  Has it been this way since day 1 or has it gotten worse over time?  Could be needing a flush, new fluid, new lines, etc...  Have you been able to compare it to one at the dealer when you're there for getting it checked out?

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I'm in SA otherwise would have been around to Sinclair Ford in a flash.

I'm sure the brakes were fine when new. Had to slam on the brakes soon after we got it.(to avoid an idiot stopping mid intersection on a green)  Not sure if that is relevant though.

Yes, there is travel and then they are spongy to the point where the pedal can be pushed to the floor but the brakes still work.

I've been told the brakes were bled but not sure if they have had a whole flush and I'm sure the lines haven't been changed.

On one of the early visits to the workshop they adjusted the rear pads which helped for a while so I can see how a loose hand brake cable might be part of the problem.

I guess I'll take it back again and ask for a brake fluid flush. (I think this is part of the 30k service anyway)
Is it possible the brake lines have been stretched due to the hard braking incident?
I'll also ask to try another car to make sure it isn't all in my mind.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2012, 10:35:44 AM »

Rods - my recomendation would be the pin inside the brake master cylinder housing. ive seen a similar issue on a Ford KA in the UK where a member was modifying their master cylinder, they inserted the pin incorrectly (not deep enough) and i appeared the brakes wouldnt work.

After they looked into it some more, they found by screwing the pin in 2-3 turns the pin actually made contact alot sooner and the brakes where alot more responsive. they also engaged higher on the pedal.

the thread can be found here,

http://www.fordkaownersclub.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?72367

if it doesnt let you in just press enter on the web adress up the top. should show you want you need tos ee.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2012, 12:55:04 PM »

Thanks for the link photn.

I'll mention this possibility to the service manager too.
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