Fiesta (2009) Zetec brake pedal travel
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That RS in the Ring video is on MSS not on Cup2 that i think all press cars had. Lots of squeeling, takes forever to come back. I had same track "joy" with stock Contis, chassis can handle speed but tyres not so.
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Torque vectoring, so it thrashes the brakes like with ST. It works but I'd rather a proper diff.
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wow, the rs mk3 is open diff standard...... lots of electronic trickery....
May 26, 2016, 08:25:44 AM
Pretty sure the montune stuff for the RS will be covered, at least if you do the stages like you can with the focus and fiesta
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Yep, it's a global car so they are only building in just enough. If they made it stupidly beefy it would kill off profits.
May 25, 2016, 04:23:45 PM
Got ya Robbo, I haven't seen anything on it so genuinely curious - Shame they've had issues, would be good to have a lot of headroom to make it mental, but guess that's when you reinforce...
May 25, 2016, 03:20:59 PM
Probably a very mild increase. Ford will have left them a little bit to work with as part of their partnership. I wonder if it will be covered under new car warranty.
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What that means in terms of power increase I dont know, but will be interesting to see
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Ford had publically documented issues getting the power and also failures in the process. It held up the final release by a long shot. It will be interesting to see how tuners go with it, but at any rate, it will be a cracking good car, even at stock power.
May 25, 2016, 01:51:46 PM
That's what I generally thought Rocker, at the end of the day there is usally a goal and a budget it's made to and usually it's always dialled a bit back for reliability etc (but doesnt mean a lot of headroom also)
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Whay are people paying for a log book service these days ?  A service. .
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someone posted a pic of a Blue one in Melbourne today (or yesterday). Probably was a press car as they've fenced off an area around Ford's offices today apparently.
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i read somewhere that a media car blew head gasket and/or rear differential. Easily modified though to be tougher so dont worry too much
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Wait n see Nocturne. None of generic cars is perfectly done, depending of design or budget constrains but still no manifacturer builds them to their almost maximum.
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So any of those comments facts or just assumptions? I'd like to see what people have/will do with the new RS.

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« on: April 21, 2012, 04:21:52 PM »

I know there are a few Fiesta owners on here so just throwing this one out there.

The wife's Fiesta has a LOT of travel before the brakes engage. The brakes work OK but the pedal can be pushed to the floor!

Been back to the dealer 5 times I think Ticked Off Rear pads adjusted, bled 2 or 3 times, replaced rear wheel cylinder, replaced master cylinder. Everytime it comes back, I swear it gets worse.

A bit of chatter on a UK forum had me thinking it might be a known issue but can't seem to find any resolution.

Have any fiesta owners had any issues with brakes or heard of any problems?
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2012, 04:44:35 PM »

How far do you pull the handbrake to start it working? Could be that the cable needs adjusting. It's usually under the car, like a turnbuckle thingy to effectively shorten or lengthen the cable.

If the handbrake is adjusted reasonably short the brakes can't open up too far and will take up earlier upon pedal effort being applied.
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2012, 05:03:34 PM »

The hand brake comes about 1/3 to 1/2 way up before it feels like it is working.

With the hand brake on (and the engine running) the brake pedal still has a lot of travel but at least the pedal doesn't hit the floor.

So, I'm not sure that's the problem but I can see it might help. I'll adjust it when I get a chance.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2012, 05:23:45 PM »

How many kilometers has it done? Maybe the brakes are also getting pretty thin, or air in the lines? Needing a bleed with some new fluid.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 08:28:22 AM »

About 27k. If it wasn't under warranty I would have taken it elsewhere ages ago.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 09:55:04 AM »

If I'm not mistaken, the handbrake is a cable and the brakes are a fluid, so the handbrake test is not really a good test in this instance...

Are the brakes spongy?  Have you had them do a brake fluid flush?  Has it been this way since day 1 or has it gotten worse over time?  Could be needing a flush, new fluid, new lines, etc...  Have you been able to compare it to one at the dealer when you're there for getting it checked out?

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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 04:15:04 PM »

Sounds like the sort of thing when you need new fluid to me.

Correct the handbrake is cable.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2012, 08:37:49 AM »

If I'm not mistaken, the handbrake is a cable and the brakes are a fluid, so the handbrake test is not really a good test in this instance...

Are the brakes spongy?  Have you had them do a brake fluid flush?  Has it been this way since day 1 or has it gotten worse over time?  Could be needing a flush, new fluid, new lines, etc...  Have you been able to compare it to one at the dealer when you're there for getting it checked out?

Where are you loacted?

I'm in SA otherwise would have been around to Sinclair Ford in a flash.

I'm sure the brakes were fine when new. Had to slam on the brakes soon after we got it.(to avoid an idiot stopping mid intersection on a green)  Not sure if that is relevant though.

Yes, there is travel and then they are spongy to the point where the pedal can be pushed to the floor but the brakes still work.

I've been told the brakes were bled but not sure if they have had a whole flush and I'm sure the lines haven't been changed.

On one of the early visits to the workshop they adjusted the rear pads which helped for a while so I can see how a loose hand brake cable might be part of the problem.

I guess I'll take it back again and ask for a brake fluid flush. (I think this is part of the 30k service anyway)
Is it possible the brake lines have been stretched due to the hard braking incident?
I'll also ask to try another car to make sure it isn't all in my mind.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2012, 10:35:44 AM »

Rods - my recomendation would be the pin inside the brake master cylinder housing. ive seen a similar issue on a Ford KA in the UK where a member was modifying their master cylinder, they inserted the pin incorrectly (not deep enough) and i appeared the brakes wouldnt work.

After they looked into it some more, they found by screwing the pin in 2-3 turns the pin actually made contact alot sooner and the brakes where alot more responsive. they also engaged higher on the pedal.

the thread can be found here,

http://www.fordkaownersclub.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?72367

if it doesnt let you in just press enter on the web adress up the top. should show you want you need tos ee.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2012, 12:55:04 PM »

Thanks for the link photn.

I'll mention this possibility to the service manager too.
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