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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2017, 03:42:07 PM »

You don't need to Forge the engine for Stage I cams, only Stage II and III.

JWR ran Stage I cams in there old car, making just over 400HP. Forge is only worth it if chasing 500+ in my opinion and you won't get that out of the Mondeo engine anyway without major ECU work, which no one has done.

You are correct that you dont have to retune or forge for stage one cams but generally it isnt done unless chasing big power. IMO stage 1 just arent worth it as the mid range is solid anyway and I am impying that it's not one of the first things you do for power gains.

I suspect more aggressive cams help with getting heat from the chambers due to extra valve overlap.
I swear I can hear a slight cammy lope in the idle of my RS engine that wasn't present with the original XR5 engine.
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« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2017, 07:17:18 PM »

Here's the BD Performance solution.

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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2017, 07:25:52 PM »

Ductile steel liner system, similar to darton materials but installed like stock liners.

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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2017, 08:00:58 PM »

Here's some pics of mine (Evilbert engine) with Darton liners. This was all done by JHH Performance Engineering back in 2010 who do some great work. I've known John Hill who started it for some time (although he's been retired a while now) as he did the engines in the Group A Corolla we took to Bathurst in '93. They made a custom torque plate for the machining work and drilled the Darton liners to help with cylinder cooling.

It's about to all come apart for a refresh so I guess we'll see what 5000km of pretty hard use looks like.

Block bored/honed ready to accept the liners


Liner ready to be installed


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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2017, 08:11:37 PM »

I reckon I'll end up keeping my old engine just in case  :D

There's no way I'll have the RS engine carved up unless it's broken or worn.
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« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2017, 06:48:50 PM »

Any one know where i can get a block mod done in melbourne?
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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2017, 07:38:15 PM »

Chadstone Ford i believe have done some.  You could try Berry Motor Group in Mitchum too. They are Volvo specialists and know the 5 pot engine very well.

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« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2017, 08:42:26 PM »

Swedish Prestige in Huntingdale did at least one. Im not sure how much, but it shall be as much as for head gasket change.
Tell us what you get quoted for.
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« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2017, 09:58:33 PM »

i have experience with engine work at Swedish Prestige. my advice if you go there is to make sure you have deep pockets...     Shocked
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« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2017, 08:40:38 AM »

Well to me they sound resonable. Clutch install i been quoted $800 so its on pair with common prices. While Barry guys told me about 4k for block mod... that is why im interested to hear what quotes does stonerz get.
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« Reply #40 on: October 31, 2017, 05:58:18 PM »

I had a lot of work done there to the S60R. Not complaining about the quality of the work, it was top notch.  Cost me $7k.  When I showed the invoice to Mark at Berry's, he said they could have done it for $1500 less. (i know him from Volvo groups i am in and the car was previously his from a few years back).

 
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« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2017, 10:28:29 AM »

Neil, might be worth talking to Anthony Rogers about cooling for the dartons.
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« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2018, 08:56:20 PM »

Can anyone recommend a place in NSW to get the block mod done?

Kind of struggling to get recommendations in Syd.
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